City Council · 2018-04-10

CITY OF OREM
CITYCOUNCILMEETING
56 North State Street Orem, Utah
April 10, 2018
3:00P.M.WORKSESSION-PUBLICSAFETYTRAININGROOM
CONDUCTING Mayor Richard F. Brunst
Councilmembers Debby Lauret, Sam Lentz*, Tom
ELECTEDOFFICIALS
Macdonald, Mark  Seastrand, and  Brent  Sumner
(*participated electronically)
APPOINTEDSTAFF Jamie Davidson, City Manager; Brenn Bybee, Assistant
City Manager; Steven Downs, Assistant City Manager;
Greg Stephens, City Attorney; Richard Manning,
Administrative Services Director; Bill Bell, Development
Services Director; Scott Gurney, Fire Department Director;
Gary Giles, Police Department Director; Charlene Crozier,
Library Department Director; Chris Tschirki, Public Works
Director; Steve Earl, Deputy City Attorney; Jason Bench,
Planning Division Manager; Sam Kelly, City Engineer:
Jody Bates, City Recorder; and Jackie Lambert, Deputy
City Recorder
EXCUSED David Spencer
ACTIVESHOOTER TRAINING
Chief Giles introduced Sgt. Shane Fredrickson and Officer Dan McKown who would be
conducting the training. Chief Giles said the Orem Police Department (OPD) prepared and
trained for these active threats regularly. They worked closely with Alpine School District to
give School Resource Officers (SROs) access to the computer and camera systems, as well as
give them master keys to access all areas of the schools. He said Orem was a safe and a peaceful
place, but they prepared for the day that it was not.
Officer McKown shared a presentation about active threat incidents, mentioning such mass-
casualty events as Virginia Tech, the Aurora Theater, Sandy Hook Elementary, the Pulse
Nightclub, and most recently Stoneman High in Parkland. He said public buildings like schools
were often targets, and law enforcement and educators were working to find solutions including
improved security camera systems, automated lockdown systems, etc. Officer McKown said the
Orem City Center was also a vulnerable spot and management was working on implementing
safety protocols. He said training was important because when faced with a situation where panic
might take over, instead simple training could kick in at the crucial moment. The basic idea of
the training was "Run - Hide - Fight" and Officer McKown said he would talk about what that
meant for the City Council and for the Orem City Center. He mentioned that the statistics in his
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presentation went through the year 2015, and that it took the FB1 approximately 12 months to
update that information year to year.
Active Threat Incidents:
· Learning Objectives
0Provide basic knowledge that will enable you to survive a mass-murder incident
Run
· Hide/barricade
Fight
 Understand there is a difference between domestic mass-murder incidents and
terrorist attacks
Understand how law enforcement is dealing with current mass-murder incidents
Mass-Murder Attacks
O Act of murdering a number of people, typically simultaneously or over a
relatively short period of time and in close geographic proximity
0The deliberate illegal killing of a large number of people or organization
Terrorist Attacks
 The calculated use of violence (or threat of violence) against civilians in order to
attain goals that are political or religious or ideological in nature; this is done
through intimidation or coercion or instilling fear. (Coup de main/Surprise attack)
 Mass Casualty Incidents
0Not a “new" phenomenon
 Earliest record school shooting
July 26, 1764 Franklin County, PA:  Four Delaware Indian
warriors entered a schoolhouse of white settlers.The warriors
scalped and killed 9 children
May 18, 1927 Bath, Ml: Farmer Andrew Kehoe, school board
treasurer, planted two 500 lb. bombs at the Bath school. Kehoe
killed his wife and fire bombed their home. The two bombs at the
school were set to explode at the same time, but only one
detonated. During rescue efforts, Kehoe drove to the school and
detonated a third explosive in his truck, killing himself. The two
explosions killed 36 students and 9 adults
What is an Active Shooter Incident?
oIncident in which there is the intentional or systematic shooting of multiple
victims and the shooter's intention is to continue the deadly behavior until
stopped by Law Enforcement or until objectives are met
Who is the shooter?
o Male (80%)
o Under 40 years old
Lacks social skills
o
Tends to be the victim of bullying
Does not take criticism well
O
Blames others
O
Does not accept responsibility
o Interest in weapons/guns
"Avenger mentality"
o
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Incidents bylocation
0160 incidents from 2000 to 2013
An average of 11.4 incidents occurred annually
An average of 16.4 occurred in the last 7 years
70.0% of the incidents occurred in either a commerce/business or
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educational environment
Shootings occurred in 40 of the 50 states and District of Columbia
60.0% of the incidents ended before police arrived - 44 incidents
over
within 5 minutes
Casualties
160 incidents from 2000 to 2013
1,043 casualties
486 killed
557 wounded
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Median number of killed in each incident was 2
Median number of wounded in each incident was 2
OResolution
160 incidents from 2000 to 2013
56.3% ended on the shooters initiative. Committed suicide,
stopped shooting or fled the scene
13% of situations ended after unarmed citizens restrained shooter
3% ended from armed citizens; 1 CCP Holder, 4 security officers
1% were stopped by off-duty police officers
Law Enforcement/Security Casualty
0From 2000 to 2013
 Law enforcement suffered 21 casualties in the 45 incidents where they
engaged a shooter:
 9 officers killed
 28 wounded
· In 3 of the incidents, armed security personnel were killed
Shooter Facts
0160 incidents from 2000 to 2013
All but 2 incidents involved a single shooter
In at least 9 incidents, the shooter first shot and killed a family member(s)
in a residence before moving to a more public location to continue
shooting
 In at least 6 incidents, the shooter was female
 In 64 incidents (40%), the shooter committed suicide
·54 shooters did so at the scene of the crime
At least 5 shooters remain at large
Active Shooter Facts (review of 230 active shooter incidents from 1966 to 2012)
98%acted alone
■ Majority committed suicide, usually on site
■ 80% used a long gun (rifle, shotgun or carbine)
75% brought multiple weapons, sometimes with hundreds of rounds of
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ammunition
The shooter(s) intent was a "high body count"
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Increasingly wearing body armor
■ They almost never take hostages and never negotiate
 The attacks were quick, averaging under 8 minutes
Recent Numbers for 2014-2015
0 40 incidents in 26 states: 20 incidents in 2014 and 20 incidents in 2015.
231 casualties: 92 killed and 139 wounded.
In 6 incidents there were 4 law enforcement officers killed and 10 injured.
6 incidents ended when citizens acted to end the threat.
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26 incidents ended with law enforcement at the scene.
14 incidents ended with an exchange of gunfire between 16 shooters and law
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enforcement. 12 killed by police (one off-duty), 3 committed suicide and 1
surrendered to law enforcement.
42 shooters; 39 male and 3 female. (2 husband and wife teams)
16 shooters committed suicide.
14 shooters were killed by law enforcement officers.
 12 shooters were apprehended.
"It won't happen here.."
0 March 5, 1994: Salt Lake City Library
29 year old male takes 10 people hostage for 5 % hours. Suspect killed by
an officer posing as a hostage
January 14, 1999: Triad Center
24 year old female armed with a 9mm handgun. 1 Killed, 1 Wounded
before she is tackled by a worker
O April 15, 1999: LDS Genealogical Library
 70 year old male kills 2, wounds 1 officer with a .22 caliber handgun.
Gunman killed in exchange of gunfire with Police
0February 12, 2007: Trolley Square
18 year old male armed with .38 pistol and a shotgun. 5 dead 4 wounded.
Gunman killed by police
August 27, 2010: Grand America Hotel, Salt Lake City
28 year old Army deserter arrived at the Grand America Hotel. The
suspect was wearing full body armor, armed with an AR-15 with a bipod,
scope and 1000 rounds of ammunition. Robyn Salmon, 60 year old
grandmother and security officer, met with suspect and escorted him from
the building. The suspect was shot and killed by SLCPD.
What can you do today?
0 Crisis rehearsal
Make a decision to survive
Apply the principles you learn here to your work environment
Develop a plan
OWhat should you do? - Most important, STAY CALM!!!
Effects of Fear
o Sensory exclusion/distortion
o Time distortion
Heightened sensory response
Panic
o
Fainting
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Lossofbladder/bowelcontrol
Loss of fine motor skills
Loss of gross motor skills
Loss of near vision
Tunnel vision
Scared stiff
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Scared speechless
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How to overcome fear
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control will decrease.
Breathing is tied to almost every body function. SLOW your breathing and
everything else will be more manageable.
Four deep breaths will slow your heart rate, lower your stress level and bring your
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body back under some degree of control.
RUN-HIDE/BARRICADE -FIGHT
OWhat should you do?
·RUN:
If it's possible to do so safely, exit the building or area,
immediately moving away from the danger
Notify anyone you encounter to exit the area immediately
DO NOT activate a fire alarm
Move to a planned staging area
Remember
The shooter's main goal is not to escape, but to kill as many
people as possible
Running down the hallways provides the shooter with more targets
and will slow law enforcement response
Don't be a target of opportunity
HIDE:
If you cannot safely exit, secure your immediate area and seek
cover
Lock the door if you can
Turn off the lights, barricade the area if possible (desk, filing
cabinets, furniture)
Silence cell phones
Keep quiet and stay away from windows
Concealmentvs Cover
Concealment - anything that hides you from view or
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renders you inconspicuous (useful)
Cover - anything capable of stopping bullets, protecting
you from enemy fire (priceless)
FIGHT:
If the shooter enters your room you should:
Improvise weapons
o Attempt to incapacitate the shooter
Act with physical aggression
o
Use improvised weapons
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Commit to your actions, he is there for a “body count" not
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a fight
SURVIVE
Call 911
Stay calm and speak clearly
Give your exact location
Number of people at your location
Number of people injured
Types of injuries
Suspect information
Suspect location
Suspect description
Weapon(s) used by suspect
If you don't know don't guess. It is okay to say "I don't know"!
Let the call-taker guide the conversation
He or she will be typing the information into a computer and may
seem to be taking forever (time distortion)
Follow all directions
 In some cases, the call-taker will give you directions. Listen
carefully, follow each step exactly, and ask for clarification if you
don't understand.
There will be multiple dispatchers handling the call. One will be
asking questions while others are passing the information to
responding officers.
Law Enforcement Response
ODO NOT expect officers to assist you initially
Primary job will be to locate shooter and “stop the deadly behavior:
DO NOT run at officers
DO NOT point anything at them
After primary shooter is stopped, officers will ensure there is no second shooter
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Law enforcement must assume everyone is a threat to their safety
Be prepared to:
Have guns pointed at you
Be searched
Possibly be handcuffed
DO NOT
Have anything in your hands (officers are taught to look for empty
hands)
DO
Comply with ALL instructions
Raise your empty hands high in the air
Spread your fingers
Show hands as you GO to the floor
Spread hands and feet
After the deadly behavior has stopped, law enforcement will switch from
"Hunting" to "Rescue" mode
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0Wounded will be identified
·Most severe will be evacuated
Minor injuries secondary
0Safety corridors will be established
 Officers will enter every room and evacuate occupants
· You will be led from building to a secured area
oThe entire area will be treated as a crime scene
?You will be moved to a secured area and not allowed to leave
·You will be checked for injuries
Youwill beidentified
·You may be interviewed
· Concealed Firearm Permit
O If you are a concealed firearm permit holder, consider the following...
Caliber of your weapon (80% of Active Shooters use long guns)
Number of rounds in your weapon
Your capabilities
Protection of those in room vs safety of others
Co-workers and others response to you
 Law enforcement response to you
SUMMARY
o Have a plan
Remain calm
Run, Hide/Barricade, last of all Fight
Report the incident
Be prepared for law enforcement's response
Officer McKown said the average response time of law enforcement to the incident is 3 minutes,
and the average length of an incident was 8-12 minutes. If fighting back was an option, it could
dramatically change the dynamic of the situation and save lives. Stopping the shooter was the
most important thing to first responders, so try to avoid impeding their progress in any way. In
response to a question from Mr. Macdonald, Officer McKown said the exact order of run-hide-
fight was not important, what was important is trying to do at least one of those things.
There was subsequent discussion on:
Concealed weapon permit holders
·
Rescue Task Force - police and firefighters/EMT working together in the aftermath
Trauma kits for schools and civic buildings
Building safety with locked doors, security cameras, panic buttons, etc.
Emergency action plans
 Knowing a building's layout and where exits were
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0  Having designated safe zone for evacuation
Mr. Davidson said there were important safety upgrades being made to the City Center. Not
everyone welcomed some of the changes being implemented, and there was a concern that it
would affect customer service, but he felt it was critical to the safety of staff and those who
visited the building. The building's design and layout, not to mention its age, made safety
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improvements more difficult to implement and install but all the more important. Mr. Davidson
said he had personally been involved in an active shooter situation and it had taken years to get
past; he would not wish the experience on anyone.
Finally, Officer McKown shared a video presentation from the regional preparedness group
Ready Houston titled, "RUN. HIDE. FIGHT.? Surviving an Active Shooter Event".
DISCUSSION-Transportation Management
Mr. Davidson said this discussion was continued from the City Council retreat because of time
constraints. He said transportation encompassed traffic and traffic systems (design and
operations), transit, roadways, bike lanes and trails, etc., and invited Mr. Tschirki and Mr. Kelly
to present.
Mr. Tschirki said Orem had a Traffic Management Team made up of representatives from 3 city
departments: Development Services, Public Works, and Police. They met monthly with UDOT,
and weekly internally. He shared a heat map that included statistical information about traffic
incidents from the past 30 days, where areas with no or blue coloring had no reported incidents
up to the orange and red areas with multiple reported incidents. He said it was helpful when
people gave them information and pointed them in the right direction; he shared an example
where Mr. Sumner had brought a certain intersection to the attention of the Traffic Management
Team and in their study of that intersection they found that it warranted installing additional stop
signs. He emphasized that warrants were State mandates that needed to be met before the
installation of traffic control devices. They tried to balance safety needs with intelligent traffic
flow design.
·Center Street median rebuild (East of State Street)
· 800 North 800 East intersection improvement
Projects included on Transportation Master Plan included:
0Center Street Corridor Study
 Data collection and management
2000 North crosswalk improvement (joint Lindon project)
Mity Lite crosswalk improvement (joint Mity Lite project)
MAG project match money (6.77% match)
·2017:
· UVU Area Transportation Study
State Street Access Improvement Study
·
1600Northwideningscenarios--1200West toStateStreet
Lakeview Parkway 30-60% design
800 North 1100 East to Palisade Drive - deceleration lane and
sidewalk
Signal/ITS upgrade
·2018:
· 1200 South 400 West roundabout improvements
·Center Street widening (I-15 to Geneva Road)
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800 North Trail - 600 West to 900 West
·2019:
· State Street medians
 1600 North property acquisition
1200 South 400 West roundabout improvements
2020:
 1200 South 400 West roundabout improvements
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· Center Street widening (I-15 to Geneva Road)
· 1600 North property acquisition
·Area of Focus Discussion
OMayor and City Council, what are your concerns?
Pedestrian, cyclist, and vehicle safety?
■ Efficient traffic flow?
Congestion?
Traffic incidents?
Transportation Capital Improvement Projects?
■ Resources?
Funding?
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Mr. Kelly said the proposed project of widening Center Street would be on hold until the railroad
line was determined to be abandoned. In response to Mayor Brunst's question about speaking to
businesses along the major corridors, Mr. Kelly said they would look into that. Timing was
important as far as staggering the lights, and they would need to also coordinate with Provo City
to keep traffic moving along for commuters. In response to Mr. Macdonald's question on
medians, Mr. Kelly said medians on State Street were part of the Transportation Master Plan and
while some businesses may not like them, they eliminated friction and created more focused
traffic flow. Mr. Bell added that they would likely start with areas where the most accidents
occurred and go from there.
Mr. Kelly said there were other major corridors people could utilize to keep the flow of traffic
moving more smoothly, and as drivers learned to redirect it would help with congestion issues.
Roadways did not necessarily need to be widened to improve levels of service (LOS). Striping
and medians and other friction reducing methods could be used. Mr. Davidson added that empty
spaces were always filled, so road expansion was not the only option. He said the idea was to
create smarter and better roadway systems, and these smarter roads would not need to be
widened to carry more cars and improve LOS. Other options as growth continued included
multi-modal options like transit.
There was further discussion on:
· Proposed capital projects
Solutions for smaller yet busy intersections
Impact fees for increased connections along Orem Boulevard
MAG funding matches for projects
Overall costs and revenue optionsfor transportation projects
Orem's grid system and establishing alternative North/South corridors
Safeguarding neighborhood roadways and school roadways
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Advancement in technology, i.e. “smart city” advancements and improved traffic control
devices, improved traffic models and equipment, etc.
Traffic patrol and enforcement from Orem Police
In response to a question about the technology cities could implement, Mr. Davidson said the
State Legislature had significantly narrowed cities' options because of concerns about
government overreach. There were strict parameters a city could operate within for those
improvements.
Mr. Davidson also spoke to the issue of costs for some of these options, and said it was often a
challenge to find the funding. Mr. Tschirki added that something as simple as installing a stop
sign still had a price tag of approximately $3,000, and the costs only went up from there. He said
to send any comments or suggestions his way.
DISCUSSION-Student Housing Overlay
Mr. Bench said there were 7 overlays in the city, and they were typically used to create
something unique for a given property area. When the suggestion of a student housing overlay
was floated, he was not sure that would be the best way to accomplish what they intended.
Overlays typically allowed for specific development in a concentrated zone, as opposed to using
at a tool to prohibit something. Ultimately the City Council “held all the cards" in terms of
approving a project or not; State law allowed the Council to use their discretion in approving or
not approving projects that came before them. Mr. Bench said the State Street Master Plan
contained districts, some of which identified areas where higher density housing should be
concentrated.
Mayor Brunst said the intent of the overlay was to protect the neighborhood around UVU from
additional student housing or high density projects coming in. He felt the areas around UVU
were a special situation. Mr. Bench said the current Council had the power to say they would not
consider residential Planned Developments (PDs) in residential zones. This was probably the
right tool to accomplish what they were suggesting, and a future Council could adjust this or
change it as they saw fit. He said they could determine that commercial PDs were still an option
and allow for that due process.
Mr. Earl said they needed to consider the precedent; if the Council made this distinction in one
areatheneveryoneelsewouldwantittoo.
In response to a question about developers “pushing" for an overlay, Mr. Bench said he had not
heard that. He had heard in meetings regarding Imagine Orem that the major consensus was to
have high density housing in those key district areas along State Street. Mr. Davidson said that
Cameron Martin, the Vice President of Public Relations at UVU, had said UVU was advocating
for isolating student-type housing in specific and set boundaries and not beyond.
There was discussion about current projects, and how they would be handled if the Council were
to move forward with a ban of residential PDs within residential zones. Mr. Bench reemphasized
that the City Council had the power to approve or not approve those projects, but they could
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implement a ban on specific PDs and drive density to the major corridors. Mr. Davidson
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interpretation would be far broader than maybe the Council was initially thinking. Discussion
continued about informal boundaries for certain projects, meaning it was not in the City's code
but had been a general practice.
Mr. Davidson said moving forward, an important part of the discussion would be managing
expectations for all involved parties. Each needed to work together toward solutions, instead of
one party dealing in absolutes with no room for deviation allowed. One thing he heard was that
every project needed to be reviewed and given the thumbs up or thumbs down before even going
to the Planning Commission. He said there was already a process in place, and certain projects
were required to hold neighborhood meetings before the project moved on. Additionally,
property rights existed on both sides and both had value. He had heard concerns about
demolition being completed before projects came before the Council, but property owners were
allowed to do that. The former Meadow Gold property was a good example of that, because the
structure had been demolished before the property was even sold.
Mayor Brunst gave a quick update on the petition for referendum. He also emphasized that the
Council could govern what was happening in the city, but they did not control or govern what
happened with UVU which was a State university. They could be an influence, but were not the
Mr. Lentz asked the timeline for this suggestion to become an actionable item in a City Council
meeting. Mr. Bench said they would work toward bringing this before the Council as part of a
district plan potentially in May or June.
5:00P.M. STUDY SESSION -PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING ROOM
CONDUCTING Mayor Richard F. Brunst
Councilmembers Debby Lauret, Sam Lentz, Tom
ELECTEDOFFICIALS
Macdonald, Mark Seastrand, David Spencer, and Brent
Sumner
APPOINTEDSTAFF Jamie Davidson, City Manager; Brenn Bybee, Assistant
City Manager; Steven Downs, Assistant City Manager;
Greg Stephens, City Attorney; Karl Hirst, Recreation
Department Director; Richard Manning, Administrative
Services  Director; Bill Bell, Development Services
Director; Scott Gurney, Fire Department Director; Gary
Giles, Police Department Director; Charlene Crozier,
Library Department Director; Chris Tschirki, Public Works
Director; Steve Earl, Deputy City Attorney; Jason Bench,
Planning Division Manager; and Jackie Lambert, Deputy
City Recorder
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EXCUSED Sam Lentz (electronically) and David Spencer
Preview Upcoming Agenda Items
Staff presented a preview of upcoming agenda items.
Agenda Review
The City Council and staff reviewed the items on the agenda.
City Council New Business
The Council discussed new business.
The Council adjourned at 5:48 p.m. to the City Council Chambers for the regular meeting.
6:00P.M.REGULARSESSION-COUNCILCHAMBERS
CONDUCTING Mayor Richard F. Brunst
ELECTEDOFFICIALS Councilmembers Debby Lauret, Sam Lentz*, Tom
Macdonald,  Mark  Seastrand, and Brent Sumner
(*participated electronically)
Jamie Davidson, City Manager; Brenn Bybee, Assistant
APPOINTEDSTAFF
City Manager; Steven Downs, Assistant City Manager;
Greg Stephens, City Attorney; Karl Hirst, Recreation
Department Director; Richard Manning, Administrative
Services Director; Bill Bell, Development Services
Director; Scott Gurney, Fire Department Director; Gary
Giles, Police Department Director; Charlene Crozier,
Library Department Director; Chris Tschirki, Public Works
Director; Steve Earl, Deputy City Attorney; Jason Bench,
Planning Division Manager; and Jackie Lambert, Deputy
City Recorder
EXCUSED Council member David Spencer
INVOCATION/
Marie Stars
INSPIRATIONALTHOUGHT
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Scout Troop 200
APPROVALOFMINUTES
Mr. Macdonald moved to approve the March 21, 2018 Joint City Council/ASD meeting minutes,
and the March 27, 2018 City Council meeting minutes. Mr. Seastrand seconded the motion.
Those voting aye: Richard F. Brunst, Debby Lauret, Sam Lentz, Tom Macdonald, Mark
Seastrand, and Brent Sumner. The motion passed unanimously.
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MAYOR'SREPORT/ITEMSREFERREDBYCOUNCIL
Upcoming Events
The Mayor referred the Council to the upcoming events listed in the agenda packet.
Appointments to Boards and Commissions
Mrs. Lauret seconded the motion. Those voting aye: Richard F. Brunst, Debby Lauret, Sam
Lentz, Tom Macdonald, Mark Seastrand, and Brent Sumner. The motion passed unanimously.
A WARDPRESENTATION-URPA Recreation Facility of theYear-All-Together Playground
Mr. Hirst invited Presley and Mindy Gleason and Brinley and Kat Bleyl to come forward. He
said the All-Together Playground originated as a plea from these mothers to have a park they
could take their daughters to where they could play with their siblings and other children. Mr.
Hirst turned the time over to Derek Ryker and Tyler Wilkins with the Utah Recreation and Parks
Association (URPA) for the presentation of the award.
Mr. Ryker said he and Mr. Wilkins were recreation employees from surrounding cities and they
organization with over 1,300 members in the state, and their mission was to strengthen recreation
and parks programs throughout Utah. At their annual conference, a committee would meet and
vote on projects and programs, organizations, and individuals to bestow awards upon. It was a
competitive process to identify the Outstanding Recreation Facility of the Year among so many
worthy applicants, so this was a high honor. He said watching Orem's community come together
to accomplish this was a great thing.
Mr. Wilkins said he too had watched from the very beginning and was impressed with the way
our community embraced the project. This was a rare and unique opportunity for a city. From the
planning process to collecting donations to the week-long build with volunteers, city staff, and
businesses all coming together, it was awesome to watch. The name of the playground itself
spoke volumes, that this was a place for all to come together. He said congratulated the City on
this project and presented a plaque designating Orem's All-Together Playground as the URPA
Outstanding Recreation Facility of the Year.
Mayor Brunst took a photo with the URPA representatives, as well as the Gleasons and Bleyls.
They were then invited to shake the hands of the City Council members.
PERSONALAPPEARANCES
Time was allotted for the public to express their ideas, concerns, and comments on items not
scheduled as public hearings on the agenda. Those wishing to speak should have signed in prior
to the meeting, and comments were limited to three minutes or less.
Gayla Muir said she was previously a member of the Orem Arts Council and was at the meeting
at the urging of Mrs. Lauret. She said the Arts Council was looking for a project for the
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upcoming Centennial Celebration, and had an idea. When she was on Arts Council, a subject that
would come up from time to time was the fact that Orem had no statuary. Her idea was that the
City Council could commission a local artist to sculpt a statue to go in a public area. She
suggested that the statue be of a farmer picking an apple from an apple tree, to hark back to
Orem's roots as an agricultural center particularly for fruit orchards. On a separate note, she
wanted to give a shout-out to the Orem Police Department for designating a safe area for sales on
KSL. Knowing she had somewhere safe to meet with a potential buyer helped her avoid a
potentially dangerous situation.
Murray Low said UVU's Cameron Martin said at a recent City Council meeting that there should
hopefully resolve some issues. Mr. Low said there was a problem in southwest Orem, and if they
could work together and listen to each other's perspectives, they could find a constructive
solution. He said perspective was important to remember; the City Council may see a group of
disgruntled neighbors but what the neighbors saw was unparalleled growth becoming an issue.
He felt there had been disagreements and some were public and felt somewhat personal. The
neighbors were the watchmen to alert the Council of the things happening in their community,
and there were factors the Council did not know or see. Downplaying the warnings or the
neighborhood or ignoring them caused him worry. Mr. Low said not every Council could get
everything right, and they were trying to help the Council avoid missteps like UTOPIA and
              
exemplary.
Jim Hadlock said he had two issues to bring before the Council. He said he had called the City
about these issues with no response. His first issue was about the City's recycling program and
the need for education and explanation on how recycling was handled. He would go on walks in
his area and would see recycling bins full of plastic sacks full of the recycling waste. At a
recycling center, they did not open those sacks and instead placed them in the regular trash and
that ended up at the landfill. Mr. Hadlock thought there should be information given to recyclers
so they knew the rules of recycling. The second issue he wanted to speak on was water
conservation and the watering of lawns. He said in his area that there was an elementary school,
an LDS chapel, and a city park all in a row and during the summer months the lawns of these
respective properties were watered every day. That was unnecessary, and created an issue of
standing water once the ground got past a saturation point. Mr. Hadlock said he had seen a city
and mud were splashed everywhere. He thought the City needed to implement a watering
schedule, particularly this summer after a drier winter.
Carol Harrison said she was unable to attend the City Council meeting in February where the
Palos Verdes issues was voted on, but if she had she would have raised the issue of the density.
She said that while the developers had listened to some concerns and had made some changes,
they had not improved on the issue of density. At three meetings she had stated that this project
had too many beds. She had provided a handout to the Council showing information in graph
form about the density of projects around UVU. Wolverine Crossing was a project on 16 acres
with 1,200 beds, while Palos Verdes was planned at 8 acres with 1,600 beds - half as much land
as the other project with an average density of 200 beds per acre. Ms. Harrison said the Planning
Commission had an issue with the project, but the Council voted for it despite that. The
developers had said the density was required for financial reasons, but she knew that was not true
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and felt that Woodbury was not telling the whole truth. If the project was too expensive for them
tobuild,thenitdidnotbelongthere.Shehoped thisissuecouldbeconsideredwhen thepetition
associatedwiththisprojectwassubmitted.
TheMayor thenclosedPublicAppearances.
CONSENTITEMS
Therewere no ConsentItems.
SCHEDULEDITEMS
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ADJOURNMENT
Mr.Seastrand moved to adjourn themeeting.Mrs.Lauret seconded themotion.Thosevoting
aye:Richard F.Brunst,DebbyLauret,Sam Lentz,Tom Macdonald,MarkSeastrand,and Brent
Sumner.Themotionpassed unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 6:27p.m.
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Approved:May 8,2018
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